A Trans Discussion

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Well, sis...I wish that were true...you are confusing sex (biological/anatomical), e.g. male or female, in the binary perspective, with gender (identity/expression), e.g. man or woman...thus, anyone can claim to be a man or a woman, but male or female (or intersex) is defined at birth...hormones change only your body chemistry, not your genetics...even if you transition as a teen...

An FTM transsexual can look like a male with clothes on, but will not have a real, functional penis...and a MTF transsexual, if she tranitions early, may look like a female, but she won't have ovaries, a uterus or a real vagina...with advances in medical technology, those facts may change, but, for now, they are facts...

As a MTF transsexual I wish it were different, but it isn't...and I'm for truth, not fantasy...especially transgender fantasies that are eroding exisiting transsexual rights...

Let's clarify some things...transgender is not transsexual...yes, I know that the mainstream media and the medical establishment use "transgender" as an umbrella term, but that's only to further their agendas...for example, I am not transgender (i.e. transitioning my gender)...I've always been a woman (gender identity/expression)...and now transitioning my sex (biological/anatomical sex) - i.e. transsexual - to the extent that medical technology allows...female-to-male transsexuals have little problem being pregnant...they are genetic females...and it's beyond me why they would post on "Mpreg"...they are "Fpreg"...unless they don't know the difference between sex and gender...I know they identify as men and, accordingly, I describe them with the male pronoun (he), but they ARE genetic females...if we're going to talk about genetic male pregnancy, let's talk about male-to-female transsexuals...

Pretty sure it doesn't work like that. FtM transsexuals often take hormones to alter their bodoes, along with surgeries. I plam on both taking hprmones and getting whatever surgeries I can to transition, thus being closer to a male physically.But a person's physical sex doesn't matter. Regardless of one's genitalia, or the hormones they had prior to hormone replacement therapy, if someone claims to be male, then they are male. End of story.

Did you call me SIS? I EXPLICITLY said that I am a male, and you call me SIS?

I'm sorry I can't provide a thought-out reply at this time, although I would like to, but I will say that I believe this topic should have its own thread for friendly debate so that this thread can stick to welcoming etc.

PreggyShelly, many things you have said I find quite offensive and an attack to our personal identities. Please don't confuse this as anger- I am merely stating my opinions and feelings. I would be more than happy to explain how, but today is going to be Hell on earth for my workload today.

As a quick piece of advice, though, I would suggest that you do not call a transmale "sis." It's true, I do often call women and girls "dude" as an expression of a person, but I believe society has developed it into being androgynous, and I have not recieved complaints yet.

Sis however, and I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding this, if directed at me would make me feel extremely hurt and scared. By calling me sis, you 1- out me, thus putting me in mental and physical danger and 2- express to me that my mental identity is not real or just a "phase", or that I am not real and my feelings or opinions illegitimate .

It is my preference, and I know it is the preference of most if not all trans* people I know, not to call them by their birth-assigned-sex when passing in public.

Honestly if someone called me sis or a woman while I was passing and they new, I'm not sure if I would cry on the spot or punch them in the nose.

That may be the hormones talking. x_x

Unfortunately this is all I have time for. x_x. I'm not meaning to hurt or offend, merely teach and critique so we can all live happy, comfortable lives.

You're right, this shouldn't be a thread for debate. I made this as a thread where trans folks could all chat and be friends. :)