06-06-2013, 03:13 AM
Gravid Lutra does bring up some valid points here. While we certanly realize that this is really Lyric's site in the end, to do with as he pleases, I, for one, am still a bit confused by the mentality that having written stories or tastefully done artwork that cover certain topics will somehow get this site shut down or us all arrested.
Consider this:
The movie "That's My Boy" (produced by actor Adam Sandler's company, Happy Madison) does deal with a (male) minor having sex with a (female) teacher and getting her pregnant, and also has a scene involving incest, while the book series "A Song of Ice and Fire" (of which the HBO TV series "A Game of Thrones" is based) includes multiple cases of incest (which prodoced at least 3 pregnacies to date within the storylines). Neither has had the U.S. government go after anybody involved with either.
Similarly, the Nifty website I previously referred to (http://www.nifty.org) has been in operation in one form or another since 1992 (that's 21 years of operation, longer than some people here on MPC have been alive). It is a website that deals with sexual stories around gay, bi, transgendered, and beastiality, and within the first three of those categories has subsections that include incest, adult/youth sex, and youth/youth sex). No Nifty author (of which I am one) has ever been arrested, and the site is still in operation. Not only that, but Nifty Archive Alliance was formally incorporated as a not-for-profit organization in April of 2000, with the IRS determining that the Nifty Archive Alliance was a tax-exempt charity under IRS Code 501©3 (which, i think, rather effectively eliminates the arguement that the U.S. government hasn't shut Nifty down or gone after any of its authors on the basis of simply not knowing about the site).
I suppose that, in short, what's bothering me is that while I'm not a lawyer (by my own admission), neither is anybody else here (if there are any lawyers, here, they've not identified themselves as such to me), and I feel we're having non-lawyers implementing rules based on interpretations that seem to have little basis in basic logic, if not established fact (because if the government really did legally go after people/companies/websites/whatever just for wrinting fictional stories, the "A Song of Ice and Fire" book series would never even have been published, much less turned into a major TV series on a major cable network, "That's My Boy" would never have been produced - watch just the first 10 minutes of it and tell me that it wasn't made at least in part for exactly that "kind of entertainment" - and the Nifty website wouldn't exist any more, and I could very well be writing this from prison, assuming the government didn't shut MPC down, too).
Consider this:
The movie "That's My Boy" (produced by actor Adam Sandler's company, Happy Madison) does deal with a (male) minor having sex with a (female) teacher and getting her pregnant, and also has a scene involving incest, while the book series "A Song of Ice and Fire" (of which the HBO TV series "A Game of Thrones" is based) includes multiple cases of incest (which prodoced at least 3 pregnacies to date within the storylines). Neither has had the U.S. government go after anybody involved with either.
Similarly, the Nifty website I previously referred to (http://www.nifty.org) has been in operation in one form or another since 1992 (that's 21 years of operation, longer than some people here on MPC have been alive). It is a website that deals with sexual stories around gay, bi, transgendered, and beastiality, and within the first three of those categories has subsections that include incest, adult/youth sex, and youth/youth sex). No Nifty author (of which I am one) has ever been arrested, and the site is still in operation. Not only that, but Nifty Archive Alliance was formally incorporated as a not-for-profit organization in April of 2000, with the IRS determining that the Nifty Archive Alliance was a tax-exempt charity under IRS Code 501©3 (which, i think, rather effectively eliminates the arguement that the U.S. government hasn't shut Nifty down or gone after any of its authors on the basis of simply not knowing about the site).
I suppose that, in short, what's bothering me is that while I'm not a lawyer (by my own admission), neither is anybody else here (if there are any lawyers, here, they've not identified themselves as such to me), and I feel we're having non-lawyers implementing rules based on interpretations that seem to have little basis in basic logic, if not established fact (because if the government really did legally go after people/companies/websites/whatever just for wrinting fictional stories, the "A Song of Ice and Fire" book series would never even have been published, much less turned into a major TV series on a major cable network, "That's My Boy" would never have been produced - watch just the first 10 minutes of it and tell me that it wasn't made at least in part for exactly that "kind of entertainment" - and the Nifty website wouldn't exist any more, and I could very well be writing this from prison, assuming the government didn't shut MPC down, too).